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Ivo., 9 hours agoA good telephone like S21 Ultra makes better videos and pictures then any mirrorless camera in… moreYou didn’t just compare a full frame sensor to a smartphone sensor, right?
Do your homework.
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great cameras, phones have a long way to go this one only have a 24mp sensor
Ivo., 9 hours agoA good telephone like S21 Ultra makes better videos and pictures then any mirrorless camera in… moreNot sure if bait…
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Then let them make better phones; not a cocktail of cams.
I would rather buy a phone+cam than whatever these could be called now.
The last good phone cam is the CM1; it was still a smartphone.
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Nick Tegrataker, 9 hours ago“better colors”
Are you kidding me sir..
“even better resolution (8K)”… moreSmartphone manufacturers need to come up with something to try to break out of the deadlock and continue to make money)
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Ivo., 9 hours agoA good telephone like S21 Ultra makes better videos and pictures then any mirrorless camera in… moreIncredibly idiotic suggestion, you’ve got no idea what you talking about! What a loser… 😂😅
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Nick Tegrataker, 9 hours ago“better colors”
Are you kidding me sir..
“even better resolution (8K)”… moreWell said. Those people just look at the photos on a phone screen without ever zooming in! If you do that, almost anything can look good. You can’t see noise and artifacts if don’t zoom in or see in sufficiently large screen.
S21u is handily beaten by 1″ sensor phones such Mi12s ultra. Even Mi12s ultra is no match for proper cameras. These are no match for full size sensor. Moreover, these are worsened by multi-bayer layout.
They need to use common sense, if these phone cameras are really better than full size cameras then why don’t professional photographers just use the former?
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Ivo., 9 hours agoA good telephone like S21 Ultra makes better videos and pictures then any mirrorless camera in… more“better colors”
Are you kidding me sir..
“even better resolution (8K)”
Do you know how bloody garbage an 8K video footage looks from Samsung’s S Ultra series phones? It only uses 1/3rd of the entire sensor area, and per-pixel detail is terrible due to a minuscule pixel size and the need to perform remosaicing on groups of 9 pixels that share the same colour filters. Recent Xiaomi phones can record much better quality 8K videos, and even then, I wouldn’t bother comparing it to 6K footage from this camera.
The point of using a mirrorless to capture photos is that you can swap out lenses according to your need, and RAW files you’re getting out of it are significantly more flexible compared to those from smartphones (unless you’re stacking frames, such as when using Gcam). S21 Ultra can’t even handle subtle motion very well in less-than-ideal lighting conditions, that’s definitely not the smartphone camera I would like to use lol.
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A good telephone like S21 Ultra makes better videos and pictures then any mirrorless camera in daylight, with much better HDR, better colors, and even better resolution (8K)! The S21 Ultra can beat the mirrorless cameras even in low light photos, but can’t match them at night photos and videos, which is the only reason to buy a mirrorless camera nowadays – for low light video. Samsung can easily add an additional camera with huge pixels, at least 8 µm, and 2MP resolution for great 1080p night video, which will be good enough and it will match even the Sony a7S with the same size pixels!
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I dropped my S5 on the pavement from a height of a meter and it still works fine. Probably the S5II will also be a good camera
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SuuperBaka, 18 hours agoYou’ll find people on here and will try and argue that their phones take better videos th… morethey are a joke, if they are serious
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@Phonefreak45, 720p out of this camera, will look very good on smartphones
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Skipping PDAF is good for the raw image for it never skips details for AF area while keeping binning high for the relatively low price
I have the GX1 and it’s still the loveliest cam when it comes to post processing it.
https://www.dpreview.com/galleries/3568539511/photos/4276324/
D-AF is good but not stellar; thank the so-called reviewers for bloating every camera to turn them into hybrids than be contained into what they specifically can do.
At least cams are not bloated as smart-phone cams of now yet.
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Anonymous, 20 hours ago720p video out of this is miles better than 8K from phones. This is hilarious. Let’s be more specific than that. In low light, HDR scenarios, colour depth sensitive shooting scenarios (for example, low light), and in high zoom level scenarios, 720p 60FPS video out of this camera will look better than 4K 60FPS video out of a phone in equivalent shooting scenarios. Other than that, yeah resolution doesn’t matter past a certain point, but 720p video won’t even look good on a phone screen, let alone a laptop or TV. HDR, colour depth, low light, and zoom are the only advantages this camera will give you over a phone when artificially limited to 720p resolution.
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No point of a professional camera if it can’t do still photography, if picture is to be tweaked, tweak extent should be as far as, imagination.
One can do that with processoing might, no need for optics, i.e. Dawn AI then content aware in Photoshop. CES23 ll be the biggest ever tho, what a great time to live.
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The specifications look good. Might give it a run test once available in my place.
Anonymous, 20 hours ago720p video out of this is miles better than 8K from phones. Cause this is a proper mirrorless camera… This shouldn’t be a comparison. Of course, these cameras will take better photos/videos than any smartphone.
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Anonymous, 16 hours agoPanny disables the PDAF because they were sure CDAF with help of AI would be as good as sport … more“S1 has imx410, just like a7 iii and z6/z6 ii .. just proves they disable it”
Always cite your source when you make a statement. In case you’re wondering, A Wikipedia article is even less of a reliable source than so-called “leakers” if it doesn’t show any reference to a particular piece of information.
Panasonic never publicised the names of their sensors, and probably neither will they ever do in future. It’s significantly easier for one to find out the specific version of a sensor used on a smartphone because most of the time it can be easily retrieved through API, on a dedicated camera this is simply not the case.
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Nick Tegrataker, 18 hours agoIt staggers me that Panasonic, until this very moment, never had any camera with a PDAF-capabl… morePanny disables the PDAF because they were sure CDAF with help of AI would be as good as sport cameras. Did not come out as they planned, everybody knew except them.
S1 has imx410, just like a7 iii and z6/z6 ii .. just proves they disable it.
Cmos of 7 iv is even worse than imx410. Anyway, it is best seller mirrorless in Japan ( counting whole 2022)
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AndroidAuthority, 18 hours agoThese start at $2000, beating a smartphone is bare minimum.You dont buy iphone for this price in some places.
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